FEATURE REQUEST : Support for RTFD files ?

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Remy

15 May, 2017 08:54 AM

Namely .rtf files including images/pictures.

Do you plan on supporting this ? If no, why ?

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Danilo Bonardi on 15 May, 2017 10:21 AM

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    Hi Remy,

    RTFd support is not hard to achieve but is a file format which really works only on Macs (not sure which app can manage them on iOS). Also is not really portable on other platforms.

    Do you use RTFd for specific reasons?

    Cheers.

  2. 2 Posted by Lapin Vert on 15 May, 2017 10:34 AM

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    Thanks for your reply.

    I have two points to share concerning .RTFd's :

    1. I know that Apple Notes supports RTFd :
    https://support.apple.com/kb/PH22616

    I think it's a first good reason for Bear to support it as well, just for
    not being less usable than Apple Notes.

    2. Secondly, as you said RDFd is supported by Macs. Bear being still Mac
    oriented, many of your users have .rtf files trailing around on their
    computers. Mac's default text editor has awlays been textEdit.app, which
    stores files as ".rtf" by default, and as "*.rtfd*" AS SOON AS you add an
    image in it.
    There must be many people taking on-the-fly notes with textEdit.app, saving
    them sometimes as .rtf, sometimes as .rtfd, and who would be pleased to be
    able to at least import them into bear.

    I am one of them. So to answer your question, I used RTFd just because I
    used to take notes sometimes including images with Mac's default
    textEdit.app editor : )

  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by Danilo Bonardi on 15 May, 2017 10:53 AM

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    Hi again,

    1. You are right, but please notice Apple Notes only import RTFd and we can do it to. But please notice no RTFd export is provided.

    2. Also correct, but I don't understand why exporting a note as RTFd, do you want to edit it afterward with TextEdit?

    Maybe I misunderstood the whole thing and you want only an RTFd importer :)

  4. 4 Posted by Lapin Vert on 15 May, 2017 11:05 AM

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    Indeed my current personal need is all about *importing* .RTFds

    .... Which is not currently supported by Bear, is it ?

    As for the need for exporting notes as .RTFd files... If would say if user
    wants to share his note with someone who doesn't use Bear, and have it
    editable ? ... but there is already .docx for that... So I guess you're
    right, it doesn't seem to be worth any development time : D

  5. Support Staff 5 Posted by Danilo Bonardi on 15 May, 2017 11:07 AM

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    No, is not currently supported, but I'll look into it, it should not be prohibitive.

  6. 6 Posted by Lapin Vert on 27 May, 2017 01:08 AM

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    Sweet : )

    Did you have the time to look at it ?

    It seems rtfd files have really simple structure, quite close to .textbundle

  7. Support Staff 7 Posted by Danilo Bonardi on 28 May, 2017 12:31 PM

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    Hi Lapin,

    Yes, in version 1.2 you can import rtfd files or drag&drop them in the doc icon.

    I think .textbundle is a way better format, because the text in fully portable format and support also generic files.

    Cheers.

  8. 8 Posted by Remy on 01 Aug, 2017 01:46 AM

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    Hi Danilo,

    I just upgraded to the last version, and tried to import .rtfd files, but it didn't work.

    When I do it from click right + open, it shows nothing and note isn't imported.
    When I do it from File > import from Notes, it shows the little loading indicator modal for a short period, then still nothing is imported.

    Did you remove the feature from last time ? Or I am missing something ?

    Cheers

  9. Support Staff 9 Posted by Danilo Bonardi on 01 Aug, 2017 07:48 AM

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    Hi Remy,

    can you please send me the rtfd file you are trying to import? Bear should import .rtfd when selected from the open file window or drop on the doc icon, but maybe you have found a bug.

    Cheers.

  10. 10 Posted by Remy on 02 Aug, 2017 01:10 AM

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    Hello Danilo,

    Here is a test rtfd file that I tested and didn't work.

    Please try to import it and tell me if you could reproduce the problem.

    Thanks

  11. 11 Posted by Remy on 09 Aug, 2017 09:43 AM

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    Hello,

    Did you have time to look into it ?

    Cheers

    Remy

  12. Support Staff 12 Posted by Danilo Bonardi on 14 Aug, 2017 07:54 AM

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    Hi Remy,

    not yet, sorry.

  13. 13 Posted by odysseus on 04 Sep, 2017 05:36 AM

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    No, rtfd import (from programs like Scrivener) doesn't seem to work *at all*

  14. 14 Posted by odysseus on 04 Sep, 2017 05:39 AM

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    another problem is that Bear can't seem to import folders of notes (in rtf format, for example). That shouldn't be too hard to implement, should it?

  15. Support Staff 15 Posted by Danilo Bonardi on 06 Sep, 2017 09:25 AM

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    @remy

    Sorry for not getting back earlier, we were really busy.
    The rtfd file you provided does not seem valid. I'm not able to open it with TextEdit.

    @odysseus

    Can you please provide a rtfd file which doesn't import?
    You should be able to import multiple files using File -> Import Notes on mac, but maybe the cause of the problem is bug in the rtfd importer.

  16. 16 Posted by Marc Bizer on 06 Sep, 2017 01:56 PM

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    Hi Danilo,

    I know that this is just a bit tangential, but I had written, "Bear can't seem to import folders of notes (in rtf format, for example).” So I’m talking about just importing a folder of rtf files.

  17. 17 Posted by Remy on 06 Sep, 2017 02:15 PM

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    Hi Danilo

    Thanks for your answer.

    Actually I think my file is legit because outputed by textEdit (and I can open it).

    Please look at this short demo video where I create a new file. I attached the file created in the video.

    You can see my version of textEdit and macOS in it as well.

  18. Support Staff 18 Posted by Danilo Bonardi on 08 Sep, 2017 01:07 PM

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    @Remy

    Maybe it's a High Sierra problem, but the last file you send give me the error in the screenshot. I'll check on macOS 10.12

    @Marc

    Sorry, I misread. File -> Import Notes should work for RTFs too.

  19. 19 Posted by Marc Bizer on 08 Sep, 2017 01:15 PM

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    Danilo,

    My question is this: why can’t Bear import a *folder* of rtfs?

  20. Support Staff 20 Posted by Danilo Bonardi on 08 Sep, 2017 01:24 PM

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    Sorry, the screenshot is not clear. With the open file panel shown in the screenshot, you can select multiple RTF files and import them in one shot.

    You can't drag&drop a folder with RTF inside on Bear Doc icon because is not coherent with how macOS handle folders.

  21. 21 Posted by Remy on 26 Oct, 2017 06:37 AM

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    Hello Danilo,

    Did you take the time to look at it ? : )

    Maybe it's a High Sierra problem as you say I don't know. But as stated in the video I am creating those notes using OS 10.12.5 and TextEdit 1.12 (329) ...

    I also tried importing it on Apple Notes and it works.

    I am looking forward to see it working in Bear or I won't be able to import all my notes T_T

  22. Support Staff 22 Posted by Danilo Bonardi on 27 Oct, 2017 08:17 AM

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    Hi Remy,

    sorry, I forgot to send an update.
    The file you send was indeed invalid, but while trying to understand what wrong with it I discovered the file was a bundle with inside a valid rtfd (probably the compression/decompression is to blame).

    As you wrote the true rtfd was not importing and I have fixed Bear's RTFd importer. The fix will be available with next update.

    Cheers.

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