Absolutely, I'm very sure there are a ton of Android users who (like myself) are not satisfied with OneNote or Evernote and will embrace Bear with open arms! I certainly hope the Android and Web versions are coming sooner rather than later!
As an early adopter of Bear, I would rather see the dev team continue to add new features and enhancements to the existing product than go through the expensive and time-wasting excercise of hiring Android devs (Shiny Frog has admitted that they have no experience with Android cding), ironing out Android-specific bugs, dealing with a totally insecure system, working around so many versions of Android and the fact that carriers don't push updates, and on and on. As a former network engineer I can tell you that companies who take security seriously don't like BYOD that are subject to almost weekly security breaches, which currently means Android. If it's your device of choice, that's your choice and maybe you won't ever get breached. I just don't want infectious backwash from an Android release mucking with my reasonably secure app and devices.
on 10 Jul, 2017 03:07 PM
Guys, IMHO this is a very wrong decision if you are looking to maximize your paying user base.
I understand you have no experience developing for Android and this is not something quick to just learn, but you can totally hire people to do it. If you look at market share numbers you're loosing a huge opportunity.
If you consider roughly 50-50 market share division between Android and iOS (only on US, as the rest of the world those numbers should be more like 80-20), you can pretty much double the potential of new users for your app. If you look to users on the entire world you'll see that now you can just reach 20% of them.
Prioritizing a web version is a bad decision as most of the benefits of the paid version aren't useful for people on the web version. I really don't think the web version would allow you to acquire more paying users. You'll probably spend a lot of money on something that wouldn't be useful for your users (for iOS users there's no reason to use the web version on a daily basis and Android users shouldn't migrate, for example, from native Evernote app to Bear web app).
I will be moving to Android for the first time in a month or two (want the bezelless form factor but don't want to pay $1k+ for a phone); and I hate to think I will have to cancel my no-brainer subscription to Bear and look for something else!
It may be just me of course but I'm pretty sure there will be a ton of people like me this fall.
And believe me I know what it's like to create an app for Android — I work at a company that is going through that right now. But I'm pretty sure the pain is definitely worth it in your case.
@Beer: on the contrary. Shiny Frog has repeatedly written that there will be no Bear for Android in the near future. Perhaps a web version. The dev team is composed of three fellows whose expertise does not include Windows or Android, and Danilo has had to state this several times. Whenever he takes time to give the same answer each time the question is repeated, he takes time away from adding features requested by us subscribers - features that many of us consider to be quite important. Therefore, I consider repeated requests for an Android version when there will be none as something that indeed affects me as a paying subscriber.
Alright...been waiting for months with a hint that you might go to android. I was an avid iPhone/Mac user. Now just Mac and so happy I gave up on iPhone. Don't need to hear the blowback from all the pretentious iPhone users. I get it ...blah blah blah...security... blah blah blah. Get over yourselves. I'm done spending hundreds (now a thousand) on a phone that can't keep a charge for more than a couple hours. Yeah..that's right...i switched to android for battery life. That's it. Everything else is identical after a couple days. Crap battery life and Bear are the only differences i see between my 5 years with iphone and 1 year with android. After seeing these absurdly vehement posts against a Bear android app...even though every other app you iphoners use is also on android...and also seeing Bear have 0 interest...I'm now realizing I don't want to be a part of this creep fest. I hope canceling my Bear subscription will be as freeing as turning down a free iPhone 7 for a mid-range android. Have fun. Now...who can recommend a more inclusive note-taking app not run by a bunch of condescending hipsters?
Please create an android version of the app, or even just a limited webapp. I know it's hard because you use iCloud to store data, but I'd pay you extra for cross platform storage. I'm missing Bear so much on my phone. Pretty please.
Then you can slowly customize/roll-out full functionality using webview approach - I mean, the heaviest processing is exporting a BearNote no?- So figure out how to approach this process and then just build a web app and make into a PWA and launch it at a URL, security is more controlled and allowing device access to Bear is possible - what are downsides ?? Please explain
on 05 Nov, 2017 11:06 PM
This is unfortunate to hear! I honestly assumed (obviously incorrectly) that the bear desktop app was an electron-based web app (and I don't really see any reason that it couldn't be. Maybe its worth considering?). So i was a bit shocked to see I'll have to switch back to evernote when my new pixel 2 arrives in a few days.
Bummer! I've REALLY the enjoyed the product while i've been able to use it! Keep up the good work!
I, too, went Android upon the announcement of iPhone X's price and upon the botched release of iOS 11. I still have my iPhone 7 Plus (on WiFi only), but I'm happily using a Galaxy S8 as my daily driver now and see many reasons to stay switched. Including a headphone jack, and $400 saved for on an upgrade to an operating system with power-user customizability. As an owner of every generation iPhone period to 2017, I too would urge the developers to consider the benefits of being available to users like me.
+1 for an Android version. I've been an iOS user since it first came out but I'm ready to make the switch. The ONLY real thing that's holding me back is not having the Bear app on Android. Please Shiny Frog, make the app. Stop wasting time with an Apple Watch app and hurry up with an Android app!!! :)
+1 for Bear on Android. I randomly landed on Bear app while using my old iPhone and was hooked. I've since changed my platform and now I'm an Android user, at least for the next 5-6 years. I miss Bear and would live to have it with me on this new platform.
+1 for Android. I use a Mac laptop, but my personal smartphone is always Android. I'd like to switch from Evernote to a better platform, but right now, Evernote is the only one that syncs with all my devices.
I've just read about Bear Notes. I have Mac, iPad and Android phone (as Android dev). So I can't use your app on all devices for seamless experience. Waiting till you, guys do the right step and create the Android version, as now - it's pointless.
+1 for Android. A notes app in 2018 cannot simply be tied to one platform, specially when the other platforms have a much larger market share and have more paying customers.
I use all platforms and willingly support and use apps which support them (like Dropbox).
Would love to jump ship from the pain that is OneNote to this, but cannot live without the syncing to my phone and other computers.